Whatisusf
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w stands for you cant get married faggot
11/4/2004 3:03:57 AM
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spankster182
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hello, i am a girl, thanks "faggot"! .gif) and by the way, there is no "W" in there!
[Edited by spankster182 on 11/3/2004 11:11:18 PM. Reason for edit: .]
11/4/2004 4:09:22 AM
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beachsandsurf
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Nice shirts! Where can I order my own?
11/4/2004 4:23:58 AM
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scuffmaster
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duh W sucks
11/4/2004 4:41:36 AM
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scuffmaster
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[Edited by scuffmaster on 11/3/2004 11:42:44 PM. Reason for edit: repost my bad]
11/4/2004 4:41:37 AM
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yummy247
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ah, I miss the days when my blissful ignorance caused me to vote republican....
11/4/2004 6:37:16 AM
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spankster182
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yeah, and i'm looking forward to the days when the exreme liberals run the nation and there is no morality left in america!
i actually made the shirts w/ iron on fabric from joann fabrics!
11/4/2004 12:56:42 PM
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raginghefer24
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and i miss the days when people's ignorance doesn't prevent them from getting along
[Edited by raginghefer24 on 11/4/2004 8:53:47 AM. Reason for edit: nonsense]
11/4/2004 1:00:37 PM
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BMack
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I miss the days of low gas prices and a well off economy
11/4/2004 1:06:21 PM
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brandon1934
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I likes spankster182.
11/4/2004 1:18:08 PM
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skgcutie
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lol.. good thread here.. =)
GO BUSH!
11/4/2004 2:58:20 PM
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sundoll-arwhore
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Weezer is crying now over dumb people ripping off their logo.
11/4/2004 3:10:58 PM
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raginghefer24
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^BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...say it ain't so
11/4/2004 3:13:44 PM
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Carlster39
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I LOVE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11/4/2004 3:24:02 PM
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EmptyApocalypse
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yeah, and i'm looking forward to the days when the exreme liberals run the nation and there is no morality left in america! |
Morality = Christianity integrated into our government.
11/4/2004 3:44:52 PM
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sundoll-arwhore
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and not just any Christianity...the "right" Christianity according to W.
11/4/2004 3:46:05 PM
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spankster182
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people can disagree and not be offended by it and still get along.. i don't know why some people have to get personal about it.. i'm pretty sure my political beliefs don't affect my ability to get married!
there is nothing wrong with people taking a stand politically.. being able to exercise our right to choose our president and express our opinions freely is what makes america so great. however i have no respect for personal bashing because of who i vote for, it is unfounded and immature!
11/4/2004 4:40:16 PM
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spankster182
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i'm all for morality being tied into government.. without morality in the world, there would be chaos. no right/wrong at all. people shouldn't be allowed by their government to do things that are bad for themselves and the whole of society.
11/4/2004 4:43:52 PM
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KTC
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You go GIRL!
11/4/2004 4:46:09 PM
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sundoll-arwhore
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^^who gets to decide the morality though? Who decides what is right and what is wrong? Letting the government tell you what you can and cannot do can be dangerous, just look at dictatorships. Discussions, ideas, and possible actions are very important to the growth of a society. If they're limited by what one group deems "morals" you leave out a lot of people.
[Edited by sundoll-arwhore on 11/4/2004 11:49:09 AM. Reason for edit: bleh.]
11/4/2004 4:47:20 PM
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brandon1934
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The consensus of the citizens should decide. And if you can't live with it, there are other countries may do it the way you like. I'm not saying, "If you don't agree, get out!" I'm saying that you have a choice... don't act like you don't.
11/4/2004 4:52:28 PM
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raginghefer24
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^if that consensus bases their morals on religion (which is what happens many times) that can be a bad idea
11/4/2004 4:56:53 PM
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spankster182
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oh no don't get me wrong, i don't think that the president should be able to say "this is what is right to me, and therefore this is law". that's why there are checks and balances in the government, so no single person or branch gets too much power and makes decisions that are unreasonable and not agreed upon by a majority. not everyone is going to agree on every subject, that's why we have different political parties. what i do think is that a majority of america has backed the president and has reelected him for another term, and i am happy that the morals and values that have been instilled in me will continue to be the morals and values instilled in america.
11/4/2004 4:59:43 PM
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EmptyApocalypse
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Checks and Balances?
Like having a republican president and a republican majority in the senate... Rock and Roll...
No more USA, now we are being renamed Jesusland.
11/4/2004 5:05:26 PM
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sundoll-arwhore
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Also I would like to say that if anyone ever rips off a cheap imitation of the Weezer logo, it is my duty as a fan to laugh.
now get out brandon .gif) haha
[Edited by sundoll-arwhore on 11/4/2004 12:09:34 PM. Reason for edit: l]
[Edited by sundoll-arwhore on 11/4/2004 12:10:33 PM. Reason for edit: 2+2=5]
11/4/2004 5:08:45 PM
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spankster182
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hey if majority chooses republicans for office, then so be it, it doesn't change the fact that there is a checks and balances system in effect. the judicial branch plays a role in this as well that is based on america's constitution, which is neither republican nor democratic... nor associated with any particular religion
[Edited by spankster182 on 11/4/2004 12:12:03 PM. Reason for edit: .]
11/4/2004 5:10:41 PM
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brandon1934
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if that consensus bases their morals on religion (which is what happens many times) that can be a bad idea |
If the consensus based their morals on SNL skits and George Carlin, then that's the consensus of the people. The consensus should decide what the consensus bases their morals on.
11/4/2004 5:10:43 PM
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brandon1934
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now get out brandon haha
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HEY! I'm in Jesusland! You get out!!! 
11/4/2004 5:12:01 PM
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EmptyApocalypse
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[Edited by sundoll-arwhore on 11/4/2004 12:10:33 PM. Reason for edit: 2+2=5] |
1984 Referance... You rule.
11/4/2004 5:13:16 PM
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sundoll-arwhore
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^Thanks, I guess that's what happens when you do more than watch SNL skits.
Don't wanna--corrupting lil moral boys is just way too much fun!! haha
[Edited by sundoll-arwhore on 11/4/2004 12:14:52 PM. Reason for edit: 3]
11/4/2004 5:13:40 PM
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EmptyApocalypse
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SNL skits rule too... but you can't forget Orwell.
11/4/2004 5:17:06 PM
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raginghefer24
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If the consensus based their morals on SNL skits and George Carlin, then that's the consensus of the people. The consensus should decide what the consensus bases their morals on. |
all i was trying to say is that in my opinion it is wrong to base morals on religion and try to force them on other people. what is "moral" for one religion may be against another, and there are too many times that exceptions are not made...hence the separation of church and state, which isn't always upheld
11/4/2004 5:20:03 PM
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EmptyApocalypse
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I have a feeling seperation of church and state is about to go out the window for Dubya's 2nd term.
11/4/2004 5:21:39 PM
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raginghefer24
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^so do i and i hope the art of compromise will come into play, although with one party having control of the house, senate and white house, the chances of compromise start to get smaller...
11/4/2004 5:25:58 PM
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brandon1934
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LOL. You guys act like the Repubs JUST got control of all three. They had control of both parts of congress for the past 2 years.
11/4/2004 5:28:34 PM
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sundoll-arwhore
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^^Ironically enough I pray every night that that doesn't happen.
11/4/2004 5:30:44 PM
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raginghefer24
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LOL. You guys act like the Repubs JUST got control of all three. They had control of both parts of congress for the past 2 years. |
i know that they have...
and by the way, i don't consider myself a supporter of either party, there are aspects of both that i like and dislike...but i am a fan of upholding the constitution
11/4/2004 5:35:25 PM
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KTC
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Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me and the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough for the living
Make a better place for
You and for me. -Michael Jackson
11/4/2004 5:39:08 PM
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EmptyApocalypse
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Wrong, make it a better place for white christians!
11/4/2004 6:01:24 PM
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yummy247
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oh geez, did someone just quote a child molester as support for a moral argument?
11/4/2004 7:06:52 PM
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spankster182
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on the topic of compromise, kerry was right when he said we're a divided nation. i really hope that in this term GW will try to lessen that and make america more unified and stand behind our president.
back in the day, people were being forced to attend a certain church and worship a certain way or risk being punished by law.. hence separation of church and state and religious freedom. i don't think that separation of church and state was ever meant to be interpreted as "no moral or religious influences on law". after all, we are one nation under God right?
11/4/2004 7:55:21 PM
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brandon1934
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There is no winning, spankster. You neither Doll-arwhore and Madcow. Paul is just a drunk bastard.
11/4/2004 8:00:44 PM
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raginghefer24
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LOL@Madcow...
i don't wanna win...i just want us all to get along 
11/4/2004 8:03:11 PM
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sundoll-arwhore
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^^Who made you the referee of this discussion?
[Edited by sundoll-arwhore on 11/4/2004 3:03:59 PM. Reason for edit: ty]
11/4/2004 8:03:15 PM
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spankster182
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haha, no competition here, just like the discussion
11/4/2004 8:19:07 PM
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CallMeEleanor
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(The moral thing to do is not to judge someone on their sexual preference.) Did anyone skip the part in religion class where they said not to judge others. They even taught that in CATHOLIC SCHOOL. People vote on morals but don't look realistically into what effects of the implementation of those morals. I'm all for morality, but more for reality. For example: how can a government spurn sex education and then attempt to ban abortions so quickly? Logically, if better sex education were implemented not as many abortions would occur. Granted, the want for abortions will always be there and they shouldn't be as accessable, but the choice shouldn't be eliminated.
11/4/2004 8:38:52 PM
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brandon1934
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i don't wanna win...i just want us all to get along |
Awww. Group e-hug!
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Who made you the referee of this discussion? |
God said so. Deuteronomy 13:1 "If there arise among you a prophet named Brandon1934, giveth him the authority to judge all internet discussions."
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haha, no competition here, just like the discussion |
Well, in that case... carry on.
11/4/2004 8:41:19 PM
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EmptyApocalypse
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Brandon you are more of a drunk than me... maybe... ???? doubtfully i suppose... but you drink!
11/4/2004 8:45:27 PM
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Camron68
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I think the hippies are just pissed that they thought Kerry actually had a chance to win this thing! Thank you democrats for registering the youth to vote, glad to see they made the right decision!
11/4/2004 8:53:00 PM
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sundoll-arwhore
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democrat=hippy? did i miss something?
11/4/2004 8:55:02 PM
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CallMeEleanor
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I'm so always right. I should be president. Like now.
11/4/2004 8:56:46 PM
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spankster182
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i agree that it is not our place to pass judgment on someone. however that doesn't mean that we have to be supportive and encourage their mistakes.
11/4/2004 9:09:03 PM
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TrackStar
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Hmmm, I really like this Spankster chick!
11/4/2004 9:19:46 PM
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CallMeEleanor
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I also agree it shouldn't be supported, but Kerry wasn't saying 'HEY GIRL JUST SPREAD YOUR LEGS WE'LL GET RID OF YOU BABIES!' While abortion should be tackled in a COMPLETELY different way, it shouldn't be outright banned. I didn't like either of the candidates, but Kerry had better moral issues, I believe. I really, really disagree with Bush's absinence initiatives and curbing out sexual education in public schools. That just creates such problems. Sexual education isn't supporting sex, but supporting intelligent sexual choices.
And as for gay marriages, I think the moral thing to do is give them the same rights as everyone else (not judging them) and to let the churches decide if they are to be married or not. I support civil unions. I'm undecided about marriage. Ideally, homosexuals should be allowed to marry..but that's too radical a change right now.
11/4/2004 9:29:50 PM
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tampacheercoach
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"however that doesn't mean that we have to be supportive and encourage their mistakes."
Explain to me who is encouraging and supporting their mistakes? Are you saying that just because Abortion is a viable option that we are encouraging people to have them? So what about contraceptives, thats an option too. Does that mean we are encouraging people to have sex because contraceptives are available. Im not following your logic here.....
11/4/2004 10:16:44 PM
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yummy247
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i agree that it is not our place to pass judgment on someone |
Um, but isn't that what W is trying to do? By denying gays their civil liberty of marriage, you are absolutely passing judgment on them.
[Edited by yummy247 on 11/4/2004 7:44:59 PM. Reason for edit: tard.]
11/5/2004 12:10:50 AM
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TrackStar
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Nope, thats God's judgment. duh
11/5/2004 12:44:12 AM
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yummy247
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oh whoops, my bad.
11/5/2004 12:46:05 AM
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spankster182
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contraceptives encourage safe, responsible sex. abortions do not
11/5/2004 1:17:04 AM
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CallMeEleanor
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^^ HELLOOOOO Bush wants to ELIMINATE effective sexual education because he believes it ENCOURAGES sex. He advocates ABSTINENCE ONLY education and not CONTRACEPTIVE education. Therefore the use of contraceptives in the age group that needs it most isn't advocated. You'd be surprised at the amounts of ignorance there still is about contraceptives and STDs in high schools around the nation.
While I hate using sources that are heavily swayed to one side, this actually provides numbers and reputable sources:
http://webexhibits.org/bush/7.html
[Edited by CallMeEleanor on 11/4/2004 10:10:58 PM. Reason for edit: link]
11/5/2004 2:58:54 AM
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brandon1934
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Isn't that a state issue?
11/5/2004 3:09:23 AM
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CallMeEleanor
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No. http://www.mchb.hrsa.gov/programs/adolescents/abedguidetext.htm
They give grants to schools that provide abstinence only education. It's dealt with federally.
(Needless to say federal or state wide, BUSH is for this type of logic..and that's scary.)
[Edited by CallMeEleanor on 11/4/2004 10:15:26 PM. Reason for edit: Scary]
11/5/2004 3:14:49 AM
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brandon1934
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Hmmm I see. I definitely don't agree with Bush on this one... oh well.
<--- IDIOT!!!
11/5/2004 3:25:08 AM
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CallMeEleanor
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I AM TEH WINNARRRRR
11/5/2004 3:32:55 AM
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tampacheercoach
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"contraceptives encourage safe, responsible sex. abortions do not"
1. promote, advance, boost, further, encourage
I dont think abortions "encourage" or promote anything. Do you really believe that anyone who has an abortion was thinking "gee I guess I will have unsafe sex because I can always get an abortion?" Maybe some women do, but there is always going to be abuse in anything.
Likewise I dont think contraceptives alone "encourage" anything, they just allow people to have safe sex as opposed to unsafe sex. Now teaching children about contraceptives may encourage the use of them and might result in less abortions in the long run.
But in Bush's world we will teach abstinence, not contraceptives or safe sex and then make abortions illegal. Wont that be a happy place?
11/5/2004 3:43:28 AM
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brandon1934
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Because of Bush's policies and views... I am now going to obstain from having sex until I want to have children. I advise that all you people do the same.
11/5/2004 4:00:43 AM
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BelindaBunny
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woo hoo viva Bush!
11/5/2004 4:42:20 AM
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yourbestbet19
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amanda you are such a firestarter.
"W is for Win, Bitches!" = so great
11/7/2004 5:35:26 AM
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CrazyPills69
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GEORGE BUSH DOES NOT LIKE THE BLACKS!
12/28/2005 4:08:20 PM
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